Brazilian President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva, long regarded as one of Donald Trump’s most outspoken international critics, offered a candid assessment of the US President’s personality and outlined his strategy for negotiating trade issues during an upcoming high-level meeting between the two leaders. Speaking in an exclusive interview with India Today while visiting India for an AI Summit, Lula emphasised that despite tensions caused by steep US tariffs, he intends to pursue dialogue rather than confrontation.
The remarks come after the United States imposed tariffs of up to 50 percent on Brazilian goods last year, a move Washington linked to political developments in Brazil, including legal proceedings involving former president Jair Bolsonaro. The decision triggered sharp exchanges between the two leaders, with Lula previously stating that he had no meaningful relationship with Trump. However, ahead of their anticipated meeting next month, Lula indicated a more conciliatory tone, stressing that he prefers negotiation over escalation.
Referring humorously to both leaders’ age, Lula remarked that “two 80-year-olds don’t need to fight,” adding that global leaders must set an example through diplomacy and restraint. He reiterated that he does not seek a trade war with the United States and said his approach is guided by principles of dialogue and non-confrontation, drawing inspiration from Mahatma Gandhi’s philosophy. Lula is currently 80 years old, while Trump is expected to turn 80 later this year.
Although signalling openness to talks, Lula made clear that negotiations would not come at the cost of Brazil’s sovereignty. He said he was prepared to discuss tariffs as well as broader areas of cooperation, including combating organised crime, addressing drug trafficking networks, and cooperation in the rare earth minerals sector. At the same time, he emphasised caution in dealing with Trump, noting that he intends to document agreements carefully, saying he would ensure that all discussions and commitments are put in writing.
Providing insight into Trump’s personality, Lula described the US President as highly theatrical in public appearances, comparing his style to a television performance. In contrast, he said Trump behaves differently in private settings, appearing calmer and more measured during direct conversations. Lula revealed that since Trump returned to the White House, the two leaders have spoken twice and met once previously in Malaysia, experiences that shaped his understanding of Trump’s negotiating style.
Reflecting on Brazil’s broader diplomatic history, Lula noted that relations between Brazil and the United States span more than two centuries and highlighted his past working relationships with former US presidents, including George W. Bush, Barack Obama, and Joe Biden. Despite past disagreements, he underscored his intention to maintain constructive ties with Washington.
As preparations continue for their expected face-to-face meeting in early March, Lula concluded by signalling a willingness to rebuild a cooperative relationship with Trump while insisting on mutual respect. He stressed that while Brazil seeks dialogue and partnership, it also expects its interests and national dignity to be recognised in any future negotiations.
